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		<title>Comment on A clear story question. by Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I revisited this post because I saw that Donald Maass is going to be speaking at the PNWA conference this year (not that I&#039;m going).  As I read it again, I thought about how I&#039;m always happiest in life when I have a life-goal in place and am actively working on it (e.g. get in great shape, learn a new hobby, etc).  During the periods of my life when I don&#039;t have a goal, I do feel more melancoly and irritable.

This made me realize that providing goals for characters does more than create tension and draw story arcs, it also gives readers a way to connect with the characters on a very personal level -- especially when they have similar life-goals.

Louis L&#039;amour&#039;s characters universally struggle with one thing:  making a good life for themselves.  He nearly always chooses characters that are adolescents, who have just left their family and are own their own for the first time, and he follows them until they finally make it as adults and have wealth and property and the love of a desirable woman.  When he presents these characters, I can immediately connect with them because that transition in my personal life was highly important to me.  I think that is why Louis can write 120 novels, all basically the same, yet all thoroughly enjoyable by his fans such as myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I revisited this post because I saw that Donald Maass is going to be speaking at the PNWA conference this year (not that I&#8217;m going).  As I read it again, I thought about how I&#8217;m always happiest in life when I have a life-goal in place and am actively working on it (e.g. get in great shape, learn a new hobby, etc).  During the periods of my life when I don&#8217;t have a goal, I do feel more melancoly and irritable.</p>
<p>This made me realize that providing goals for characters does more than create tension and draw story arcs, it also gives readers a way to connect with the characters on a very personal level &#8212; especially when they have similar life-goals.</p>
<p>Louis L&#8217;amour&#8217;s characters universally struggle with one thing:  making a good life for themselves.  He nearly always chooses characters that are adolescents, who have just left their family and are own their own for the first time, and he follows them until they finally make it as adults and have wealth and property and the love of a desirable woman.  When he presents these characters, I can immediately connect with them because that transition in my personal life was highly important to me.  I think that is why Louis can write 120 novels, all basically the same, yet all thoroughly enjoyable by his fans such as myself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A clear story question. by Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see you posting again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you posting again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The court sobs uncontrollably. by Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Graham:  I laughed at your comment.  Yeah, I forgot how passionate they are.  --Jim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham:  I laughed at your comment.  Yeah, I forgot how passionate they are.  &#8211;Jim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The court sobs uncontrollably. by Graham Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey James,

I&#039;m not so sure. Not to be stereotypical, but the Italians do tend to be a passionate people...

~Graham]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey James,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure. Not to be stereotypical, but the Italians do tend to be a passionate people&#8230;</p>
<p>~Graham</p>
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		<title>Comment on A rolling stone gathers no bird in the hand. by M.E. Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.E. Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes, these metaphor/simile pairs can evoke laughter from even the staunchest prude.  Great reminder, Jim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, these metaphor/simile pairs can evoke laughter from even the staunchest prude.  Great reminder, Jim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More now, less then in our stories. by Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[M.E.   Yeah, sprinkling backstory here and there is an excellent way to put it.  I think one of the reasons new writers use a lot of backstory far too early in their novels is that a character&#039;s life story is a fun thing to create.  And while plotting the novel, the author thinks and thinks about his or her main character, adding twists and turns to the character&#039;s history.  Pretty soon, the writer has invented 20 things that happened to the protagonist before page one of the novel, and they are cool and exciting things.  So the writer starts to tell about them, far too early and in far too much detail.  As mentioned, the urge to invent backstory and tell the reader about it is extremely strong for me, and for many writers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M.E.   Yeah, sprinkling backstory here and there is an excellent way to put it.  I think one of the reasons new writers use a lot of backstory far too early in their novels is that a character&#8217;s life story is a fun thing to create.  And while plotting the novel, the author thinks and thinks about his or her main character, adding twists and turns to the character&#8217;s history.  Pretty soon, the writer has invented 20 things that happened to the protagonist before page one of the novel, and they are cool and exciting things.  So the writer starts to tell about them, far too early and in far too much detail.  As mentioned, the urge to invent backstory and tell the reader about it is extremely strong for me, and for many writers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Help: 60 agents turned it down. by Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad:  Regarding your comment: &quot;Literary writers put words on a page to be noticed, fiction writers want theirs to disappear.&quot;  I&#039;m going to steal . . . er . . . remember it for my class.  Thanks for the excellent post.  --Jim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad:  Regarding your comment: &#8220;Literary writers put words on a page to be noticed, fiction writers want theirs to disappear.&#8221;  I&#8217;m going to steal . . . er . . . remember it for my class.  Thanks for the excellent post.  &#8211;Jim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Help: 60 agents turned it down. by Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Books like &quot;The Help&quot; are frustrating because there are so many things not to like in them.  Open any page and you&#039;ll find words strung together in ways that Stephen King, Michael Korda, or even James Thayer would advise against, yet the book is a runaway success.

I sometimes wonder if it&#039;s been to my detriment to seek professional instruction on writing.  In all those rules and prescribed story arcs, have I lost my natural voice?  Henry Miller said he had to write a million words before he found his.  He had to write until he&#039;d exorcised himself of all the preconceived notions about writing heaped upon him.  Perhaps that&#039;s the solution:  read all you can, write all you can, and one day you&#039;ll be so fed up with it all that your own voice will emerge.

Literary writers put words on a page to be noticed, fiction writers want theirs to disappear.  But readers are a tough lot, they always want something different and new, and yet the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books like &#8220;The Help&#8221; are frustrating because there are so many things not to like in them.  Open any page and you&#8217;ll find words strung together in ways that Stephen King, Michael Korda, or even James Thayer would advise against, yet the book is a runaway success.</p>
<p>I sometimes wonder if it&#8217;s been to my detriment to seek professional instruction on writing.  In all those rules and prescribed story arcs, have I lost my natural voice?  Henry Miller said he had to write a million words before he found his.  He had to write until he&#8217;d exorcised himself of all the preconceived notions about writing heaped upon him.  Perhaps that&#8217;s the solution:  read all you can, write all you can, and one day you&#8217;ll be so fed up with it all that your own voice will emerge.</p>
<p>Literary writers put words on a page to be noticed, fiction writers want theirs to disappear.  But readers are a tough lot, they always want something different and new, and yet the same.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More now, less then in our stories. by M.E. Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.E. Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like my backstory sprinkled throughout the book - a sentence or two here...a telling detail there.  Getting smacked in the face with a chunk of background text in the first chapter is the way to pull me away from the story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like my backstory sprinkled throughout the book &#8211; a sentence or two here&#8230;a telling detail there.  Getting smacked in the face with a chunk of background text in the first chapter is the way to pull me away from the story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More now, less then in our stories. by Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Backstory?  Oh, you mean chapter two, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backstory?  Oh, you mean chapter two, right?</p>
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